{"id":42,"date":"2007-10-05T16:49:28","date_gmt":"2007-10-05T22:49:28","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.onelowerlight.com\/writing\/?p=42"},"modified":"2007-10-05T16:49:28","modified_gmt":"2007-10-05T22:49:28","slug":"another-awesome-writing-meeting","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.onelowerlight.com\/writing\/another-awesome-writing-meeting\/","title":{"rendered":"Another awesome writing meeting!"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>So, we had a writing meeting last Tuesday!\u00a0 There were quite a few people there!\u00a0 Gamila, Jakeson, Danke, Travis, Drek, Kaci, Ben (his board name is the same as his real name, believe it or not!), Tom, and Patrick (I think that&#8217;s it, but I&#8217;m not sure.\u00a0 If I forgot your name, please forgive me!), so altogether there were about ten people!\u00a0 We definitely filled up the small library room, and the discussion was very lively!<\/p>\n<p>We had some excellent stories, and I don&#8217;t think there were any stories that were boring or turned everyone off.\u00a0 One story was a little bit edgy, but not unacceptable, and it didn&#8217;t cause any schisms or anything.\u00a0 In fact, some of the more conservative members of the group complimented me personally afterwards for how I handled the situation.\u00a0 Quark has been shaken up by some trouble stirrers in the past (you&#8217;re welcome for the compliment, Joel), and I&#8217;ve been a little bit worried about how to handle controversies in the group on my watch.\u00a0 I&#8217;ve been chatting up with Aneeka and Reigheena, two former Quark writing vp&#8217;s, on this subject, and I think people from all the different perspectives appreciated how this situation was handled.\u00a0 And really, I did like the story that was submitted.\u00a0 Even though it was edgy for a squeaky clean BYU club, it wasn&#8217;t unacceptable at all, and I thought it added to the story rather than weakening it.<\/p>\n<p>A lot of people liked how the meetings went, and found the feedback to be helpful but one of the old timers contacted me on g-chat a couple days later with some possible areas that we need to improve.\u00a0 The areas he suggested had more to do with us as a group than me as a leader, though I&#8217;ve definitely got a role to play.\u00a0 Basically, we need to learn some better etiquette, both as writers and as critiquers.\u00a0 His suggestions have spawned off a thread on the Quark forums, so I&#8217;ll refer all you quarkies to that for <a href=\"http:\/\/quarksff.org\/smf\/index.php\/topic,31048.msg32077.html#msg32077\">the full discussion on this topic, <\/a>but I&#8217;ll briefly summarize it here.\u00a0 Basically, we need to remember three things:<\/p>\n<p>1) Try to avoid tangents (like anime and star trek)<\/p>\n<p>2) If you&#8217;re the writer, don&#8217;t argue with the feedback you receive<\/p>\n<p>3) Try to adhere to a sense of order in the way we give feedback: let people with comments on page one go first, on page two second, etc.<\/p>\n<p>To that, I&#8217;d add a very helpful fourth guideline that Jakeson suggested:<\/p>\n<p>4) If you&#8217;re submitting an excerpt from the novel, give a short synopsis at the beginning of the piece, so we know whether the excerpt is from the beginning, middle, or end, and can give relevant criticism.<\/p>\n<p>Gamila also suggested to me on g-chat that writers should also describe what part of the writing process they&#8217;re in; whether this is a rough draft, one of the first revisions, or whether the author is trying to polish up a final draft.\u00a0 That sounds like a good idea to me, though I haven&#8217;t yet brought it up with the others.\u00a0 I plan on doing that soon.<\/p>\n<p>There have been some suggestions that we break up the group, since it&#8217;s becoming so large.\u00a0 In general, though, I think it&#8217;s best to wait that out.\u00a0 I had the idea while g-chatting with Drek of splitting the group into a fantasy section and a sci fi section, where we&#8217;d meet every Saturday at the same time and place and alternate between the sections.\u00a0 Under this idea, people would still be free to come to every meeting, but we&#8217;d lower the submissions-per-meeting to about four and get someone to moderate the fantasy section (since I already have way too much free time as it is).<\/p>\n<p>Of course, this depends on how many people we retain.\u00a0 I think we should keep things as they are for now, then wait and see how many people are still coming regularly in November and December.<\/p>\n<p>It was a good meeting this week, but I was surprised because it really did leave me exhausted.\u00a0 The closest parallel I can think of is when you&#8217;re a missionary and you come out of an intense-but-disorganized lesson with an excited investigator who loves to talk.\u00a0 It left me exhausted like that.\u00a0 It was a good meeting, and I hope that in the future we&#8217;ll learn to build off of each other and find our &#8220;groove.&#8221;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>So, we had a writing meeting last Tuesday!\u00a0 There were quite a few people there!\u00a0 Gamila, Jakeson, Danke, Travis, Drek, Kaci, Ben (his board name is the same as his real name, believe it or not!), Tom, and Patrick (I think that&#8217;s it, but I&#8217;m not sure.\u00a0 If I forgot your name, please forgive me!),&hellip; 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