{"id":17191,"date":"2023-06-02T22:03:44","date_gmt":"2023-06-03T04:03:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.onelowerlight.com\/writing\/?p=17191"},"modified":"2023-06-02T22:03:44","modified_gmt":"2023-06-03T04:03:44","slug":"short-form-vs-long-form-fantasy","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.onelowerlight.com\/writing\/short-form-vs-long-form-fantasy\/","title":{"rendered":"Short-form vs. long-form fantasy"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>For the last month, I&#8217;ve been doing a lot of research into the fantasy genre, rereading all of the original Conan the Barbarian stories by Robert E. Howard and a bunch of the other ones too, by authors like L. Sprague De Camp, Lin Carter, Bjorn Nyberg, Robert Jordan, etc. I&#8217;ve also been reading a lot of epic fantasy, like the Wheel of Time series by Robert Jordan and the Stormlight Archive by Brandon Sanderson. And I&#8217;ve also read some essays on the genre, most notably \u201cThe Critics, the Monsters, and the Fantasists\u201d by Ursula K. Le Guin, and \u201cThe Making of the American Fantasy Genre\u201d by David Hartwell. Oh, and opening a bunch of chats with ChatGPT, though those are of limited usefulness (for some reason, ChatGPT hallucinates like crazy when you ask it to recommend any noblebright fantasy that isn&#8217;t more than two or three decades old).<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>From what I&#8217;ve gathered, there are basically two camps or schools within secondary-world fantasy: the heroic \/ sword &amp; sorcery camp, based off of Howard&#8217;s Conan the Barbarian, and the epic fantasy camp, based off of Tolkien&#8217;s Lord of the Rings. According to David Hartwell, those are the only two franchises to achieve breakout success: everything else has either achieved only moderate commercial success in its time before petering out, or gained only a niche audience. Apart from Conan, the fantasy genre as a whole didn&#8217;t really take off until Terry Brooks immitated Tolkien with his Shannara series, thus launching a wave of Tolkienesque epic fantasy in the 70s and 80s that morphed into Grimdark in the 90s, 00s, and 10s.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>So for a while, I was looking into all the various tropes and archetypes that make Conan and LOTR tick, and trying to use those to differentiate the two. But lately, I&#8217;ve been wondering if maybe I&#8217;ve been overthinking all of this, and the real difference between the two is that Tolkien mastered long-form fantasy, and Howard mastered short-form fantasy. In other words, what if the defining difference between the two camps doesn&#8217;t have to do with tropes so much as with the length of the actual story?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I suspect that short-form fantasy is poised to make a resurgence, especially with all of the challenges associated with writing and selling long-form fantasy in the 2020s. Larry Correia is right: Rothfuss and Martin have ruined the epic fantasy field for new authors by failing to finish their series in a reasonable timeframe. Unless you are independently wealthy or already have a large and loyal following of readers, it just doesn&#8217;t make commercial sense to write a lengthy series of +200k-word fantasy epics. Better to write shortier, punchier 40k-word novels instead, especially if you can churn them out every other month or so. That seems to be the model that works best for indies, at least in adjacent genres like urban fantasy and paranormal.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s my current thinking on the subject. What&#8217;s your take on it?<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>For the last month, I&#8217;ve been doing a lot of research into the fantasy genre, rereading all of the original Conan the Barbarian stories by Robert E. Howard and a bunch of the other ones too, by authors like L. Sprague De Camp, Lin Carter, Bjorn Nyberg, Robert Jordan, etc. I&#8217;ve also been reading a&hellip; <a class=\"more-link\" href=\"https:\/\/www.onelowerlight.com\/writing\/short-form-vs-long-form-fantasy\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Short-form vs. long-form fantasy<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":2,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"jetpack_post_was_ever_published":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_access":"","_jetpack_dont_email_post_to_subs":false,"_jetpack_newsletter_tier_id":0,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paywalled_content":false,"_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[1],"tags":[1669,1696,376,1004,707,394,1593,1005,501,1041,1594,322,1126,1690,499,1695],"class_list":["post-17191","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-uncategorized","tag-chatgpt","tag-david-g-hartwell","tag-epic-fantasy","tag-fantasy","tag-genre","tag-george-r-r-martin","tag-grimdark","tag-heroic-fantasy","tag-j-r-r-tolkien","tag-larry-correia","tag-noblebright","tag-novels-vs-short-stories","tag-patrick-rothfuss","tag-robert-e-howard","tag-sword-sorcery","tag-terry-brooks","entry"],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p7iXK-4th","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_likes_enabled":true,"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.onelowerlight.com\/writing\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17191","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.onelowerlight.com\/writing\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.onelowerlight.com\/writing\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.onelowerlight.com\/writing\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/2"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.onelowerlight.com\/writing\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=17191"}],"version-history":[{"count":1,"href":"https:\/\/www.onelowerlight.com\/writing\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17191\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":17192,"href":"https:\/\/www.onelowerlight.com\/writing\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/17191\/revisions\/17192"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.onelowerlight.com\/writing\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=17191"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.onelowerlight.com\/writing\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=17191"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.onelowerlight.com\/writing\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=17191"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}